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[odnorf]

I keep translating the ProjectMan (very slowly.... a few lines/day).

I have 2 more small problems....

http://master.math.upatras.gr/~odnorf/shared_tools_error2.png
(here I need one more line because there is one word that can't fit)

http://master.math.upatras.gr/~odnorf/about_error.png
(one more line here please.... )

[Mnemonic]

Okay

[odnorf]

2 more problems where the greek text can't fit.... (that's 6 until now....)

http://master.math.upatras.gr/~odnorf/error5.png
http://master.math.upatras.gr/~odnorf/error6.png

PS. Am I the only one that is translating the ProjectMan? I feel sooooo alone here.
PS2. Is there anyone else from greece here? Do I have to translate sprite & scene editor by myself (when they have a .lng file)? It will take decades with the time I can spent into this...(I think I have translated about 70% of the ProjectMan)

[Jerrot]

hi odnorf,

PS. Am I the only one that is translating the ProjectMan? I feel sooooo alone here.

hmm, i started to make a german translation yesterday and after i finished the menu, i realized two things:

1. i don't use the projectman very often... although it's lovely and i would not like to miss it, i change most things just with ultraedit...

2. all these technical terms sound stupid in german. everyone understands the english terms, i understand them even better in english than in german...

so i stopped translating, maybe if someone really needs a translation i'd have a second look into...

PS2. Is there anyone else from greece here? Do I have to translate sprite & scene editor by myself (when they have a .lng file)? It will take decades with the time I can spent into this...(I think I have translated about 70% of the ProjectMan)

[odnorf]

1. i don't use the projectman very often... although it's lovely and i would not like to miss it, i change most things just with ultraedit...

Aye... me too. I don't use the ProjectMan very often... and I am using windows notepad (yes... I am crazy...) althought I'm thinking of trying ultraedit...

2. all these technical terms sound stupid in german. everyone understands the english terms, i understand them even better in english than in german...

They sound stupid in greeks too. It's a really difficult task. I'm changing everyhting over and over to try to make them  look good...

so i stopped translating, maybe if someone really needs a translation i'd have a second look into...

Well, I'm not using the greek translation. I am just doing this 'cause I love this engine and I want to give something back to mnemonic (maybe one day I will be able to give him money with a commercial game )

[Mnemonic]

1. i don't use the projectman very often... although it's lovely and i would not like to miss it, i change most things just with ultraedit...

That's true. I'm also still doing most organizing in FAR Manager, moving files, tweaking image references in a .scene file etc. IMHO ProjectMan is great for keeping an overall view of your project, to easily navigate to certain parts, to launch external editors and to compile the final packages, but you'll spend most of the time using the external tools anyway.
I believe this approach is the best, because it doesn't dictate you strictly how you should work.

[Mnemonic]

Well, I'm not using the greek translation. I am just doing this 'cause I love this engine and I want to give something back to mnemonic (maybe one day I will be able to give him money with a commercial game )

And I appreciate it!

[Mnemonic]

Funny feeling, btw. I've spent quite a long time of my life translating other people's programs (games, to be exact), now other people are translating *my* programs. Creepy!

[odnorf]

Funny feeling, btw. I've spent quite a long time of my life translating other people's programs (games, to be exact), now other people are translating *my* programs. Creepy!

You must have a lot of patience! I am trying to translate 300 lines (the projectman) and I can't do it for more than 10 minutes a day...

Have you ever translated any adventure game? And particular any well-known adventure game?

[Mnemonic]

You bet! Gabriel Knight 3, Escape from Monkey Island and Outcast (well, not exactly an adventure :-)

[odnorf]

You bet! Gabriel Knight 3, Escape from Monkey Island and Outcast (well, not exactly an adventure :-)

  That's really cool!

PS. Did you liked Gabriel Knight 3 or I am the only one in this planet that think that this is a great game? (I assume that you have played it since you are the one who translated it for your country.)

[Mnemonic]

I *love* the GK series! I don't understand why there's so much controversy about GK3, I think it's an excellent game; for me it's one of the best AG's of all time.

[odnorf]

I *love* the GK series! I don't understand why there's so much controversy about GK3, I think it's an excellent game; for me it's one of the best AG's of all time.

YES.... It's one of the best. I think that it's unique camera movement (and not actor movement) is one of the most revolutionary ideas I have seen in computer games the last 10 years.  I REALLY LOVED IT.

PS. We need an irc channel Something like #WME

[Jerrot]

oops, i don't even know gabriel knight... i will have to look for more information about it later...

PS. We need an irc channel Something like #WME

Ok, I'm the whole day in irc anyway... which network ?

[odnorf]

oops, i don't even know gabriel knight... i will have to look for more information about it later...

You don't even know GK series? That's strange!

Ok, I'm the whole day in irc anyway... which network ?

You ask me for a network to create a #WME channel or in which network I am usually are? (When I am... not very often...)

[Mnemonic]

oops, i don't even know gabriel knight... i will have to look for more information about it later...

Well, well, you should do something about that, mister
 

Ok, I'm the whole day in irc anyway... which network ?

Ugh, I don't use IRC at all

[Jerrot]

You don't even know GK series? That's strange!

  I'm reading on sierra.com right now... don't know why I never heard about it. But currently I'm playing "The Longest Journey" (yeah, quite late, too, I know...) and I hope a package with "Syberia" will arrive me tomorrow. But wow, The Longest Journey is... well I never liked realtime 3d characters too much, but this game is great. And in every scene I'm thinking about how to do this with WME, that's funny - and it would work!

I guess I didn't realize any other adventure games, because adventures always meant "LucasArts" for me. (Ok, them and Broken Sword...)

You ask me for a network to create a #WME channel or in which network I am usually are? (When I am... not very often...)

Uhm, yes, both!  

[Jerrot]

Hi Mnemonic,

I guess we're stretching the subject again...

You translated CMI ? Say - where do you work, something we should know or are you "freelancer" ? (I don't know whether the word "freelancer" is a German invention... did you know we call our mobiles "Handy" ? Strange!)

Well, well, you should do something about that, mister

   I promise!  

Ugh, I don't use IRC at all

Never mind, you answer faster here than most people on IRC.

[odnorf]

I'm reading on sierra.com right now... don't know why I never heard about it. But currently I'm playing "The Longest Journey" (yeah, quite late, too, I know...) and I hope a package with "Syberia" will arrive me tomorrow. But wow, The Longest Journey is... well I never liked realtime 3d characters too much, but this game is great.

Yeah, "The longest Journey" and "Syberia" are great games and they one of the few adventure games where the main character is a woman.... And I don't know if you know it but "Syberia 2" is created as we talk, and a few weeks ago the CEO of Funcom said that they have plans for "The longest Journey 2"

And in every scene I'm thinking about how to do this with WME, that's funny - and it would work!

That happened to me too since I start using the WME!
There is only one thing that can't be done yet... The realtime 3D characters.
EDIT: and that great effect in the first scene when you walk to the left (to the cliff) and the prerendered 2D backgrounds rotates and zooming a little (I have played it a long time ago and I can't remember it exactly).... How did they do THAT?

I guess I didn't realize any other adventure games, because adventures always meant "LucasArts" for me. (Ok, them and Broken Sword...)

LucasArts adventures are my favorites too... but I always keep an eye on all the other companies too because I really love adventures.... Hey, I even choose to create an adventure game for a school project...

Uhm, yes, both!  

Well, I use irc sometimes but I'm not very familiar with it.... I believe that you (as an internet programmer) is the expert into those things...
As for the network I usually am... welll..... irc.gr.irc at #linux....
It's the greek linux channel and we speek greek so it's not the best place if you can't speek greek

[odnorf]

You translated CMI ? Say - where do you work, something we should know or are you "freelancer" ?

He said "Escape from monkey Island" and not "The curse of monkey island"....  

[Mnemonic]

I guess we're stretching the subject again...

Yeah, who cares? ;-)

You translated CMI ? Say - where do you work, something we should know or are you "freelancer" ? (I don't know whether the word "freelancer" is a German invention... did you know we call our mobiles "Handy" ? Strange!)

EFMI, not CMI, although I helped with the CMI translation too (a bit).
Well, all those translations I mentioned before were amateur projects (although the GK3 traslation has been recently published as a part of the budget re-edition of GK3).
But, yes, I do work occasionaly for a local distributor, providing technical support for the localizations (as a "freelancer" ).

[Jerrot]

Yeah, "The longest Journey" and "Syberia" are great games and they one of the few adventure games where the main character is a woman.... And I don't know if you know it but "Syberia 2" is created as we talk, and a few weeks ago the CEO of Funcom said that they have plans for "The longest Journey 2"

Yes, that's how I discovered these games... I heard about TLJ before, but I suppose there was some freeware AGS game that sounded similiar (and which one is... err... let's see not as advanced as TLJ !), so I didn't care...

There is only one thing that can't be done yet... The realtime 3D characters.

That's too complicated for me anyway... with bones and that stuff... can't image how to script them...

EDIT: and that great effect in the first scene when you walk to the left (to the cliff) and the prerendered 2D backgrounds rotates and zooming a little (I have played it a long time ago and I can't remember it exactly).... How did they do THAT?

There is just a parallex scrolling with 3 layers, but it's done very nice indeed! And you can do this with WME.

Well, I use irc sometimes but I'm not very familiar with it.... I believe that you (as an internet programmer) is the expert into those things...

Ok, I just thought... because you mentioned it. IRC was what I called internet a (not too) long time ago, well, IRC and newsgroups. Never heard of WWW at that time... !

Just looked up your greek #linux-channel, but after one minute I finally decided that I don't understand the Greek language. ;-)

[odnorf]

EDIT: and that great effect in the first scene when you walk to the left (to the cliff) and the prerendered 2D backgrounds rotates and zooming a little (I have played it a long time ago and I can't remember it exactly).... How did they do THAT?

There is just a parallex scrolling with 3 layers, but it's done very nice indeed! And you can do this with WME.

Really?... I don't remember that (I'm installing it now to check it). It really looks great! But I don't think that you can do it with WME because the engine decides by itself how to scroll it's layers.... It would be great to be able to do the scrolling with scripting. ...hm... mnemonic? are you reading this? (sorry for the feature request in the "how do I..." forum)

Just looked up your greek #linux-channel, but after one minute I finally decided that I don't understand the Greek language. ;-)

  Actually what you saw is called "greeklish" = greek + english. Greek text with english characters so that if a greek person lives in germany -for example - and has no greek support in his OS would be able ti read it....

[Mnemonic]

But I don't think that you can do it with WME because the engine decides by itself how to scroll it's layers.... It would be great to be able to do the scrolling with scripting. ...hm... mnemonic? are you reading this?

It *is* possible. If you set Game.MainObject to null, the game will stop adjusting the scrolling automatically. Then you can use Scene.ScrollTo method to make it scroll to a certain position.

[Jerrot]

There is just a parallex scrolling with 3 layers, but it's done very nice indeed! And you can do this with WME.

Really?... I don't remember that (I'm installing it now to check it). It really looks great! But I don't think that you can do it with WME because the engine decides by itself how to scroll it's layers.... It would be great to be able to do the scrolling with scripting.

Hm, although this is possible by scripting, I don't think you have to do this. Even if the engine "decides how to scroll its layers" it follows rules and I guess that scene would be possible just by telling the engine correct values for the size of the layers. Isn't it the same as in the wme demo and the values for e.g. the sky layer ? That's really good described in the documentation (not joking this time!   !).

I just started the game again to have a look at it - the FIRST step away from the cliff seems to be scrolled "manually" somehow, but the rest is normal parallex scrolling. And besides it's just cool to say stuff like "oh, just normal parallex scrolling, nothing special about it..."  

Actually what you saw is called "greeklish" = greek + english. Greek text with english characters so that if a greek person lives in germany -for example - and has no greek support in his OS would be able ti read it....

Well, a good example I can work with, how did you get...   Anyway I can only read Greek characters that are physical symbols, so I feel better here...

[odnorf]

Well, a good example I can work with, how did you get...   Anyway I can only read Greek characters that are physical symbols, so I feel better here...

How did I get... that you are from germany?
Well, you have to put it in your profile and you said it in the "#600" post the General section...

[Jerrot]

How did I get... that you are from germany?
Well, you have to put it in your profile and you said it in the "#600" post the General section...

  I know... i was just kidding. It's sometimes difficult to transfer a quite dry sense of humor to a message board - in a different language! So just don't mind me writing stupid stuff - it could have been a (bad) joke.  

[odnorf]

I know... i was just kidding. It's sometimes difficult to transfer a quite dry sense of humor to a message board - in a different language! So just don't mind me writing stupid stuff - it could have been a (bad) joke.  

Heh, heh! I knew you were kidding and I was kidding you! I just wanted to see your reply

[Jerrot]

Heh, heh! I knew you were kidding and I was kidding you! I just wanted to see your reply

"I'll skewer you, like a sow at a buffet."  

[odnorf]

Well, Jerrot, it seem that we have made this message board an irc channel (and it's pretty difficult with all those problems)

So.... goodnight.... it's 2.01 here and my girlfriend is already in bed... what am I doing here?

[Jerrot]

Well, Jerrot, it seem that we have made this message board an irc channel (and it's pretty difficult with all those problems)

Yep, Mnemonic is going to kill us tomorrow... fortunately I'll be on holidays until monday.

So.... goodnight.... it's 2.01 here and my girlfriend is already in bed... what am I doing here?

Dunno, but same situation here - just one hour earlier and I still have to work.