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MIDI?
« on: April 26, 2003, 04:25:07 PM »
Err.. sorry if this has already been posted, but I couldn't find any references to it...

Is there any MIDI playback possibility with WME? Or do we have to write our own dll to play these sounds?

The advantage of MIDI is that files can be really small while maintaining some good quality...
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2003, 05:26:50 PM »
From the documentation, in the "supported files formats" section: "WME supports two file formats for storing the sounds and music: WAV & Ogg vorbis"

So, my guess is that there is no MIDI support yet, but I could be wrong because the documentation is incomplete.

Personally I don't really like MIDIs very much because they sound very different in every soundcard, and despite how good a midi file is if the player has a very bad soundcard then he will hear bad (quality wise) music.
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2003, 08:44:37 PM »
Actually yes, the question has already been posted, and no, MIDI is not supported in WME. But after the previous discussion I believe Mnemonic agreed to implement MOD file support if someone would find a good open source C library for it. I think you can convert MIDIs to MOD pretty easily and MOD has better sound quality.

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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2003, 08:04:46 AM »
Yes, that's right. MIDI is not supported. Of course, it wouldn't be a big deal to add MIDI support, but I'm not sure it's really necessary (for the reasons odnorf described above). I haven't seen a commercial game using MIDI in years...
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2003, 09:06:05 PM »
Of course, if you're talking about 'commercial' games ;-)

What's nice with playing music in another format (MIDI/MOD) is that the music/speech volume can be adjusted separately, from the windows mixer... this would save some problems when the sounds would e.g. be too loud in comparison to the music...
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2003, 09:16:20 PM »
True, but you can adjust sound/speech/music volume separately in WME (using script commands).
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2003, 04:40:21 PM »
MIDI is a good file format for small games and 'Old School' games, and it easily permit to arrange music 'interactively' with the player actions. Just look at what can be done with iMuse from Lucasarts (ok, iMuse is a high quality level library).

I suggest maybe you could look at this possibility.

the midi (or mod) file format is to my mind perfect for a amateur game developpement
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2003, 06:44:52 PM »
Quote from: Niklaus_Kerner on April 29, 2003, 04:40:21 PM
Just look at what can be done with iMuse from Lucasarts (ok, iMuse is a high quality level library).
Yes, but even iMuse doesn't use MIDI nowadays ;) I was hoping the DirectMusic would be an alternative to iMuse, well, it probably is, I just don't have years to study that cryptic documentation :)

Quote from: Niklaus_Kerner on April 29, 2003, 04:40:21 PM
I suggest maybe you could look at this possibility.
Okay, I'll see what I can do about that. Like I said, it shouldn't be a big problem (I hope).
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2003, 09:25:09 PM »
Cool, thanks!
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2003, 06:18:47 AM »
DirectMusic is so confusingto make music in...
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2003, 08:23:22 AM »
I'm sure you have enough sources for this stuff, but maybe this is also helpful for anybody.

Playing Midi files with C++ / DirectMusic (DX8):
http://www.codeproject.com/audio/cmidimusic.asp

It's a great site for coders anyway.  :)
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2003, 08:16:13 PM »
Yeah, CodeProject.com is an excellent site!
I have my doubts about DirectMusic though... ;)
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2003, 02:36:07 PM »
Quote from: Mnemonic on June 11, 2003, 08:16:13 PM
Yeah, CodeProject.com is an excellent site!
I have my doubts about DirectMusic though... ;)

Unfortunately I never got deep enough in that stuff (yet) to be able to discuss this... so I won't! ;)
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2003, 06:23:36 AM »
Thanks, now that the holidays are there, I'll be able to look into it!

Mnemonic, I suppose you're using DirectX to program WME? So using DirectMusic is not a 'bad' thing for loading music files, no?
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Re:MIDI?
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2003, 09:26:03 AM »
Quote from: Mnemonic on June 11, 2003, 08:16:13 PM
Yeah, CodeProject.com is an excellent site!
I have my doubts about DirectMusic though... ;)

Do you know the sdl library at http://www.libsdl.org/index.php  ?
I think that it might be easier to use it than DirectMusic (althought I am not a programmer myself).

Slightly off topic:
And it would be be usefull if in 10 years you want to create a linux/macos/etc port of the wme :) (one less thing to program because the sld library is a cross-platform library... and it even supports opengl...).
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