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Gimp
« on: December 11, 2003, 07:40:27 PM »

I guess that everyone knowns this program.

What's new for the windows users is that now there are builds of the development (unstable) 1.3.x version at http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/

Just try it. I am sure that you will get suprised by the improvements over the very old 1.2.x version. The only problem is that it's supposed to be unstable but it works just fine at my computer for the last month (although I didn't have a chance to "play" with it as much as I wanted).
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2003, 09:17:28 AM »

The UI is customizable enough to make it to fit your needs.

And this an example of Gimp in an almost "photoshop 5 look".
http://master.math.upatras.gr/~odnorf/gimp13.jpg
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2003, 12:14:51 PM »

It really improved a lot and I guess I'll use it in future. How are the filters, is there anything serious you'd miss compared to PhotoShop ?

Oh, BTW: What window/taskbar style do you use ? :)
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2003, 03:04:49 PM »

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How are the filters, is there anything serious you'd miss compared to PhotoShop ?

Filters? I am not using filters too often, but almost everything I need is there. The only serious thing that I can't find is to create CMYK images which is a MUST have feature for a graphic designer. Maybe this feature already exists but I can't seem to find it. A few more things that I have noticed it misses are: more text capabilities (especially now that photoshop 8 can put text on paths), better layers handling (in photoshop you have groups & colors), more customizable brushes, non linear history (not very important) and maybe some other things that I haven't noticed yet. But overall it's a really great free image editing & creating program and if they continue to improve it with the same speed then it could become a very good & free alternative to photoshop in 1 or 2 years.

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What window/taskbar style do you use ?

I have installed WinXP 1-1,5 month ago just to change the colors. The theme I am using is from a site that I can't remember right now but if you are interested I can try to locate it.
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2003, 07:38:18 PM »

I have searched the gimpwin mailing list and I can confirm that gimp can't create CMYK documents yet (it's a todo for 1.3 final which will be renamed to version 2.0).
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v2.0pre1 !
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2004, 02:26:24 AM »

GIMP 2.0pre1 is out!  :)

Unfortunately it crashes on my computer while starting :P, but since this seems to be a problem on my machine only, you shouldn't take care too much about this comment... ;)
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2004, 08:07:39 AM »

I haven't worked with GImp yet, but I heard of two features/plugins/filters/whatever - one to make textures automatically (?) seamless, and another one for creating grey-scale heightmaps. Has anyone of you used these and know if they are good or not?

If they work well they would be a real relief for 3d-Designers.

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Re:Gimp
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2004, 08:12:22 PM »

I haven't worked with GImp yet, but I heard of two features/plugins/filters/whatever - one to make textures automatically (?) seamless, and another one for creating grey-scale heightmaps. Has anyone of you used these and know if they are good or not?

I finally got it installed, rather unconventional but it works. ;)
I'm quite surprised by it, it's not PhotoShop, but very powerful indeed.

Actually I also wanted to have that seamless feature, too. I used it years ago for homepage backgrounds (iiiieks!! MANY years ago!!) but I don't remember the program, maybe it even was on my old Amiga computer. I just played a little with it and... well, for nature backgrounds it could be quite useful, but it uses transparency effects and I guess for some texture it wouldn't look good.* But I gave it one of my own textures which were not that perfect before and it looks great now.  I guess you'll just have to try it out, it's difficult to describe. (Editing it manually is not that hard though... just changing the offset, smoothing or painting the break line and reset the offset again.)

I'm not sure about the heightmaps... there even is a filter called "Bump Map", but it doesn't seem to be what it promises. But it's as easy as with PhotoShop though, just convert to greyscale and adjust the colour values (even inverting works that way).

Give it a try, up to now I really like it and - it's free.

EDIT: * and you can't adjust values for this effect. :(
« Last Edit: January 14, 2004, 08:44:16 PM by Jerrot »
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2004, 08:59:42 PM »

I think that heightmap-thing was an extra-plugin ... don't know where I saw it (in some Blender-tutorial probably)

But nevertheless, I'd like to try out Gimp ... I'm just downloading it (after searching very long for the right files to download ... this whole open-source-scene is way to complicated for windows-click-and-run-users like me  :) )

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Re:Gimp
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2004, 09:07:02 PM »

But nevertheless, I'd like to try out Gimp ... I'm just downloading it (after searching very long for the right files to download ... this whole open-source-scene is way to complicated for windows-click-and-run-users like me  :) )

Wait for the installation... ;)
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2004, 09:12:26 PM »

Finished :-)

It was a little bit strange that the GDK-thing didn't recognize the installation-path I typed in, so now it's in the wrong directory ... but everything else went fine (guess today is a good day for me ... should have asked the boss for more money :-) )

But after the installation Gimp showed a funny behaviour: I started it, and both Gimp and the window for layers and stuff appeared in the task-line - but not one the desktop!

After 5 minutes of looking for what went wrong I finally had the good idea to switch on my second monitor :-)

Okay, I will try out now.

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Re:Gimp
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2004, 04:23:35 PM »

There is a third preview version of 2.0 available which has some important improvements (text).

EDIT: And don't forget to chech the GIMP-GAP plugins.

EDIT: If you get a stange error & crach when gimp is trying to load the fonts at startup then try to unistall some fonts. It seems that gimp has some problems when someone has a lot of fonts installed (%^#$%^*^(!#$&%#@#@).
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Re:Gimp
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2004, 02:59:32 PM »

Gimp 2.0 is released!  ;D

...don't forget to check the "Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer" plugin from this page http://registry.gimp.org/list?baseVersion=6
A small description "A rubbishy little plugin for Windows Gimp that gets rid of some of the weirdnesses and annoyances in the Windows version of Gimp. Basically it's a background window that sits under gimp..."
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Re: Gimp
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2004, 09:05:15 PM »

Gimp 2.2.0pre1 is out. Check it here http://gimp-win.sf.net/
From a VERY quick look it has many small interface improvements almost everywhere and the filters finally have previews.

If only the gimp-team could add cmyk support & change the "tools options pallete" to something smaller and friendlier like photoshops one...

Also the windows version still has the same installation problems as described in the other posts.  :P

Don't forget to download the latest GTK+ version from the same link as gimp2.2 requires it.

EDIT: This version of gimp windows installer creates wrong shortcut! DAH!  ???
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Re: Gimp
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2004, 07:23:40 PM »

I see that the final 2.2 is out. Don't forget to download the new GTK.  Realtime preview of transform tools and improvements to filters are a couple of improvements.

http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html

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...don't forget to check the "Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer" plugin

I recently discovered that plus there's another that adds a Windows style save/load dialog.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2004, 07:25:29 PM by Orange Brat »
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Re: Gimp
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2004, 04:09:56 PM »

@Orange Brat
Does the "windows Gimp Deweirdifyer" plugin works with your installation of gimp 2.2 ? It doesn't seem to work here.
As for the "windows save/load dialog" I have tried it but didn't like it. I prefer gimp default dialogs much better (more information, previews etc)
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Re: Gimp
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2004, 08:26:19 PM »

Yes, it seems to be working here. One thing I've noticed is that sometimes when I upgrade, the plugin will fail to open after the first startup after upgrading. It'll go back to normal, though if you close and then reopen.
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